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pot melt on fiber paper

Postby melaniedrown » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:33 am

Hi there! Does anyone know if a pot melt can be done over an 1/8" thick piece of fiber paper rather than directly on a kiln washed shelf? Thanks!
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby charlie » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:49 am

it can. it may not flow well over paper though. also because of the high temps, you may get a lot of particles of paper embedded in the bottom surface. at the least it will be very rough on the bottom.

why?
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby melaniedrown » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:57 am

i don't kiln wash our shelves, I always line with thin fire or 1/8" paper...I find we get much better results (cleaner release, smoother surfaces) and our shelves stay smooth without nicks... sooo, short of using a washed plate of bisque as a shelf, I was considering the paper. What would be your choice?
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby Doug Zawodny » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:07 am

I do all mine on Thinfire with great results.
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby melaniedrown » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:40 am

Great! So, Doug, you just use one sheet of thin fire on an unwashed shelf? Do you have to sand or grind residue away?
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby AmyK » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:55 pm

If you don't mind the investment, melting glass onto a stainless steel plate will give a nice surface on the bottom:
http://www.slumpys.com/SlumpysStore/product_Stainless_Steel_Fusing_Plates_SS-633-636VGH13043VGHVGHVGH4VGH.aspx
Coat with high temperature release, easy from a spray can with no prefiring it. ;)
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby Doug Zawodny » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:15 pm

I put my Thinfire in an 18 in. Terra Cotta Saucer (Italian Made). I kilnwash the saucer occasionally, especially the sides. I had a bad experience with pouring directly on shelves so why take the chance. The saucers are cheap and I've used mine for over a year with lots of use. The residue washes off with a wet rag.
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby Twin Vision Glass » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:19 pm

It is a nice idea as well to put a clear piece of glass down on thin-fire and this helps the glass to flow nicely. If you prefer to use fiber paper;( I usually will use clean shelf primer myself, but that is just me).(I usually will saw the clear off if it is going to ruin my pattern when I re-invest after cutting ) or polish off if the piece is large for the saw, so the glass is nice and new and clean where the join will be if you are going to re-invest and lay those two pieces with the bottom touching each other. You just want to make sure the join is clean. (but then I seem to saw everything!!! :roll:
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby Karen Lewit » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:15 pm

I have had great success doing my pot melts directly on fiber paper. Just a extra insurance tho, I also kiln wash my shelf. That way I am assured if there is a mishap with the flow directly onto the fiber paper my kiln shelf will not be damaged.
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Re: pot melt on fiber paper

Postby jestersbaubles » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:03 pm

Good to hear people have had success on thinfire. I keep reading that the paper can move and get into the bottom of the piece. I have everything all set up to do my first melt. Well, everything but time!

maybe if I got off the computer... :twisted:

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